Comments on: Straight man for gay marriage

By: Logic

Logic — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:53:57 +0000

A lot of people don’t recognize my marriage to the fictional character of Sauron. Bigots and haters, they think they can define marriage so that you have to actually exist to be married. However, because there was once another controversy about marriage, and in time people’s views came to change on that issue, the laws of the universe dictate that I must be right and you must be wrong. This is scientific fact. Despite the fact that consistently my view is shot down through the democratic process, I am more and more shocked each time. Despite this, I know they are wrong, because this is the 21st century, and if I keep saying that, they will probably eventually feel dumb and agree with me…

Because in this democracy my view isn’t popular enough to pass, I will claim I have the constitutional right to this. If someone corners me by, I dunno, actually reading the document instead of simply equating their view with “constitutional” and another automatically “unconstitutional”, my backup plan is to claim the moral high ground and yell a lot. I will insist that this supersedes the democratic process, as it’s super important. Later when my opponents claim the same for something I disagree with, I will go back to yelling a lot…

By: Bad Analogy

Bad Analogy — Sun, 27 May 2012 19:32:23 +0000

Logic never is outadated. Neither is natural law – I’m not talking about any particular religion, I’m talking about nature – science, biology, perpetuation of the species, which requires one man and one woman. Like it or not, that is what we are made for. Nature. And if you don’t like it then well, sorry.

By: Sean

Sean — Tue, 22 May 2012 15:57:28 +0000

@John D
Dude, I don’t need to hear your arguments against gay marriage to paint you as a hateful person. Need I even bring up the YWC, a group whose only purpose was to celebrate white, straight, male culture and history? It’s cute though, the argument that when we call out people for being bigots that we’re being close-minded. “How dare you call me hateful for looking at you as a second-class citizen! That makes YOU hateful!” No, it doesn’t. You could celebrate straight marriage all day long and I wouldn’t say a WORD if it didn’t come at the expense of people like myself…but the fact is that it’s not enough for people like you to just enjoy the things you have; you have to actively support the denial of them to others. THAT’S what I find hateful.

@I Doubt It
I agree, I shouldn’t take for granted the fact that the majority currently does vote to legally discriminate. My optimism comes from the fact that not only has history shown that legal discrimination falls at some point, but also that the tide of public opinion is turning in our favor, and quickly. Even the Natl Org for Marriage has tapered its views in some states like NH, calling for civil unions instead because they realize people are turning away from the original idea that we deserve NO rights, that our relationships are so far from God’s view that not only can we not be married, but we can’t even have the rights of the married. And democracy works in more than one way – we may not have a majority of voters on our side right now, but we do have the law.

@R. Simms
Please seem my previous admonition of that silly logic.

@Bad Analogy
Aside from the outdated logic in your first comment (who cares if it’s a gene? that’s not at issue here), your second comment takes the cake. The “natural law” argument of just a few decades ago was based in a biblical belief against interracial marriage – that God would judge those who partook in such a union. Still wanna go that route?

By: Bad Analogy

Bad Analogy — Mon, 21 May 2012 16:14:21 +0000

No. It is not done. Human culture will follow natural law by default. Regardless of how “cool” something is there always remains natural law.

Nice try.

By: withheld

withheld — Sun, 20 May 2012 02:11:22 +0000

Bad Analogy, you should change your name to, “Bad Logic” – the answer is in the question; consent. If you can’t give, you can’t contract for something. Marriage is a legal contract (which is why it’s a legal issue to get divorced)

Annnnnd we’re all done here….

By: Bad Analogy

Bad Analogy — Fri, 18 May 2012 15:32:06 +0000

Race is not a choice. Basically most of us are mutts anyway. Can you prove there is a “gay’ gene?

With your logic, why stop at two consenting, loving adults?

By: Moose

Moose — Thu, 17 May 2012 19:56:36 +0000

A lot of people didn’t think inter-racial marriage was “marriage” either and they were all wrong. You are not the first or last person to be wrong. But you’re still wrong.

I don’t see what the problem is between two consenting, loving adults who want to get married. Would you care to explain to me what that problem is?

By: John D

John D — Mon, 14 May 2012 21:40:34 +0000

Mike,

Didn’t say I was mad. Just don’t think that’s what marriage is.

By: Mike Williams

Mike Williams — Mon, 14 May 2012 15:02:45 +0000

Being mad homosexuals can marry is like yelling at people for eating candy when you’re on a diet.

By: John D

John D — Mon, 14 May 2012 14:28:09 +0000

Kudos to you guys for making everyone who disagrees with you “ignorant” or “hateful.” You could just say we’re wrong. But I guess that’s not dramatic enough. Anyway, well done.